batch.motif.greek-plato-republic-jowett-gutenberg-l11459-l11608
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record_id: batch.motif.greek-plato-republic-jowett-gutenberg-l11459-l11608
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/greek/project-gutenberg/republic-jowett.md
passage_locator:
label: THE REPUBLIC. / PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE. / BOOK I. / BOOK II.; lines 11459-11608
start: '11459'
end: '11608'
translation: The Republic
notes: Generated from OpenAI Batch run motif-extraction-2026-04-28-high-priority;
human review required.
canonical_text:
quote: God is not the author of all things, but of good only.
summary: 'Socrates and Adeimantus discuss rules for poetry and theology in the proposed
State: myths of divine violence, family conflict, and divine causation of evil
should not be taught to the young; poets should represent God as good, as causing
only good, and not as a deceptive shape-changer.'
language: English
quote_policy: quoted
literal_observations:
- id: obs:1
text: The speakers say that stories in which a young man could justify grave crimes
or chastising his father by divine example are unfit to be repeated in the State.
category: speech
evidence_refs:
- ev:1
- id: obs:2
text: The speakers propose excluding accounts of wars in heaven, battles of giants,
divine plots, and quarrels among gods, heroes, friends, and relatives from the
education of future guardians.
category: action
evidence_refs:
- ev:2
- id: obs:3
text: Specific mythic examples named for exclusion include Hephaestus binding Hera,
Zeus throwing Hephaestus down for defending Hera, and battles of the gods in Homer.
category: speech
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- id: obs:4
text: The passage states that young people cannot reliably distinguish allegorical
from literal meanings and that early stories can become indelible and unalterable
in the mind.
category: attribute
evidence_refs:
- ev:4
- id: obs:5
text: Socrates says he and Adeimantus are founders of a State rather than poets,
and that founders should know the general forms and limits for poetic tales.
category: speech
evidence_refs:
- ev:5
- id: obs:6
text: The first theological rule developed in the dialogue is that God is good and
is the cause of good only, not of evils in human life.
category: speech
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- id: obs:7
text: The passage rejects poetic statements that Zeus dispenses both good and evil
lots, that Athene and Zeus caused treaty violation, or that God plants guilt in
a house to destroy it.
category: speech
evidence_refs:
- ev:7
- ev:8
- id: obs:8
text: The passage permits saying that divine punishment may be just and beneficial
for the wicked, but forbids saying that God is the author of anyone's misery or
evil.
category: speech
evidence_refs:
- ev:9
- id: obs:9
text: A second principle is introduced by asking whether God is a magician who appears
in different shapes or instead remains one and the same in his proper image.
category: speech
evidence_refs:
- ev:10
figures:
- id: fig:1
name_or_label: Socrates / the primary speaker
description: The speaker who proposes educational and theological rules for the
State.
role_refs:
- role:1
- role:2
evidence_refs:
- ev:5
- ev:6
- ev:10
- id: fig:2
name_or_label: Adeimantus
description: The interlocutor addressed by name, who agrees with the proposed rules
and asks about the models and forms of tales.
role_refs:
- role:3
evidence_refs:
- ev:1
- ev:5
- ev:11
- id: fig:3
name_or_label: future guardians / young men
description: The intended young audience whose education is being regulated.
role_refs:
- role:4
evidence_refs:
- ev:2
- ev:4
- id: fig:4
name_or_label: poets and reciters
description: Composers and performers expected to conform to the rules concerning
the gods.
role_refs:
- role:5
evidence_refs:
- ev:5
- ev:11
- id: fig:5
name_or_label: God
description: The divine figure discussed as good, as cause of good only, and as
possibly to be represented as unchanging rather than deceptive.
role_refs:
- role:6
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- ev:9
- ev:10
- id: fig:6
name_or_label: Zeus
description: A god named in rejected poetic examples as a dispenser of good and
evil lots and as connected with divine conflicts and human strife.
role_refs:
- role:7
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- ev:7
- ev:8
- id: fig:7
name_or_label: Hephaestus
description: A god named in excluded stories as binding Hera and being thrown by
Zeus for taking Hera's part.
role_refs:
- role:7
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- id: fig:8
name_or_label: Hera
description: A goddess named as Hephaestus' mother, bound by him and beaten in the
rejected story.
role_refs:
- role:7
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- id: fig:9
name_or_label: Homer
description: A poet whose accounts of divine battles and Zeus dispensing good and
evil are rejected for the State.
role_refs:
- role:8
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- ev:7
- id: fig:10
name_or_label: Aeschylus
description: A poet whose statement that God plants guilt to destroy a house is
rejected.
role_refs:
- role:8
evidence_refs:
- ev:8
- id: fig:11
name_or_label: Pandarus
description: A figure whose violation of oaths and treaties is said not to be attributable
to Athene and Zeus.
role_refs:
- role:9
evidence_refs:
- ev:8
- id: fig:12
name_or_label: Athene
description: A goddess named in a rejected attribution of Pandarus' treaty violation
to divine agency.
role_refs:
- role:7
evidence_refs:
- ev:8
- id: fig:13
name_or_label: Themis
description: A divine figure named in a rejected claim that strife and contention
of the gods was instigated by Themis and Zeus.
role_refs:
- role:7
evidence_refs:
- ev:8
roles:
- id: role:1
label: lawgiver for poetic education
assigned_to:
- fig:1
basis: The speaker defines rules and principles for tales allowed in the State.
evidence_refs:
- ev:5
- ev:11
- id: role:2
label: theological reasoner
assigned_to:
- fig:1
basis: The speaker reasons that the good does no evil and that God causes only good.
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- id: role:3
label: assenting interlocutor
assigned_to:
- fig:2
basis: Adeimantus agrees, asks questions, and gives assent to the proposed law.
evidence_refs:
- ev:1
- ev:11
- id: role:4
label: educational recipients
assigned_to:
- fig:3
basis: The future guardians and young people are the group whose first tales are
being regulated.
evidence_refs:
- ev:2
- ev:4
- id: role:5
label: regulated tale-makers and performers
assigned_to:
- fig:4
basis: Poets and reciters are expected to conform to the rules concerning the gods.
evidence_refs:
- ev:5
- ev:11
- id: role:6
label: good divine cause
assigned_to:
- fig:5
basis: God is described as good and as cause of good only, not of evil.
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- ev:11
- id: role:7
label: mythic divine figure in rejected examples
assigned_to:
- fig:6
- fig:7
- fig:8
- fig:12
- fig:13
basis: These gods appear in stories or claims that the passage says should not be
admitted or approved.
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- ev:7
- ev:8
- id: role:8
label: poetic authority under critique
assigned_to:
- fig:9
- fig:10
basis: Homer and Aeschylus are named as poets whose statements about the gods should
not be accepted in the State.
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- ev:7
- ev:8
- id: role:9
label: human oath-violator in rejected divine-causation example
assigned_to:
- fig:11
basis: Pandarus' violation of oaths and treaties is explicitly not to be attributed
to Athene and Zeus.
evidence_refs:
- ev:8
symbols:
- id: sym:1
label: two casks of lots
literal_form: Two casks at the threshold of Zeus, one full of good lots and one
of evil lots.
associated_figures:
- fig:6
- fig:9
taxonomy_refs: []
evidence_refs:
- ev:7
- id: sym:2
label: cup of unmingled ill
literal_form: A cup of unmingled ill given to a person driven by hunger over the
earth.
associated_figures:
- fig:6
- fig:9
taxonomy_refs: []
evidence_refs:
- ev:7
- id: sym:3
label: mutable divine shapes
literal_form: God imagined as a magician appearing in one shape and then another
or deceiving with semblances of transformation.
associated_figures:
- fig:5
taxonomy_refs: []
evidence_refs:
- ev:10
scenes:
- id: scene:1
label: Exclusion of harmful divine myths from the State
summary: The speakers agree that stories of divine family violence, heavenly wars,
giant battles, and quarrels among gods and heroes should not be repeated to future
guardians.
figure_refs:
- fig:1
- fig:2
- fig:3
- fig:6
- fig:7
- fig:8
- fig:9
symbol_refs: []
evidence_refs:
- ev:1
- ev:2
- ev:3
- id: scene:2
label: Reason for regulating first tales
summary: The passage explains that the young cannot judge allegory from literal
narrative and that early stories strongly shape the mind, so first tales should
model virtuous thought.
figure_refs:
- fig:1
- fig:2
- fig:3
- fig:4
symbol_refs: []
evidence_refs:
- ev:4
- ev:5
- id: scene:3
label: 'First theological rule: God causes only good'
summary: Socrates reasons that because God is good, God should not be represented
as the cause of evils, and poets must not attribute misery, guilt, oath-breaking,
or mixed fortune to divine evil agency.
figure_refs:
- fig:1
- fig:2
- fig:4
- fig:5
- fig:6
- fig:9
- fig:10
- fig:11
- fig:12
- fig:13
symbol_refs:
- sym:1
- sym:2
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- ev:7
- ev:8
- ev:9
- ev:11
- id: scene:4
label: Introduction of second theological rule concerning divine mutability
summary: Socrates asks whether God should be thought of as a magician changing shape
or deceiving by appearances, or instead as fixed in one proper image; Adeimantus
says he needs more thought.
figure_refs:
- fig:1
- fig:2
- fig:5
symbol_refs:
- sym:3
evidence_refs:
- ev:10
candidate_motifs:
- id: motif:1
label: Regulation of sacred stories for the education of the young
taxonomy_refs:
- wisdom
basis: The passage centers on rules for which tales about gods and heroes may be
told to future guardians, with concern for moral formation.
evidence_refs:
- ev:2
- ev:4
- ev:5
- ev:11
confidence: medium
cautions: The available taxonomy has no exact education-or-censorship motif; the
wisdom reference is broad.
- id: motif:2
label: Good deity not author of evil
taxonomy_refs:
- duality
- wisdom
basis: The speakers distinguish good from evil causation and state that God is cause
of good only, with evil causes to be sought elsewhere.
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- ev:11
confidence: high
cautions: This is a philosophical-theological rule rather than a narrative myth
episode.
- id: motif:3
label: Divine punishment as just and beneficial correction
taxonomy_refs:
- divine_judgment
basis: The passage allows poets to say that God punishes justly and that the wicked
are benefited by receiving punishment, while denying that God authors evil.
evidence_refs:
- ev:9
confidence: medium
cautions: The passage discusses permissible representation of punishment rather
than narrating a judgment scene.
- id: motif:4
label: Rejected divine shapeshifting or deceptive appearance
taxonomy_refs:
- shapeshifter
basis: The second principle is introduced through the question of whether God appears
in different shapes, changes into many forms, or deceives with semblances of transformation.
evidence_refs:
- ev:10
confidence: medium
cautions: The passage only raises the question and does not yet complete the argument
in this excerpt.
- id: motif:5
label: Conflict among gods and divine kin as prohibited model
taxonomy_refs:
- duality
basis: The passage names wars in heaven, divine plots, fights, and quarrels among
gods and relatives as stories to exclude because they would model civic conflict.
evidence_refs:
- ev:2
- ev:3
confidence: medium
cautions: The taxonomy reference is approximate; the passage treats these conflicts
as rejected educational content.
comparison_claims:
- id: claim:1
claim: The passage explicitly contrasts its proposed theological rule with Homeric
poetic material in which Zeus is associated with mixed good and evil fortune and
divine battles.
claim_level: same_function
target: Homeric representations of Zeus and divine conflict
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- ev:7
counter_evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- ev:11
confidence: high
limitations: The passage uses Homer as an example to reject, not to provide a neutral
comparative survey.
- id: claim:2
claim: The passage explicitly contrasts its rule that God should not author evil
with an Aeschylean formulation that God plants guilt to destroy a house.
claim_level: same_function
target: Aeschylean divine destruction of a house through planted guilt
evidence_refs:
- ev:8
counter_evidence_refs:
- ev:9
- ev:11
confidence: high
limitations: Only a brief quoted example is provided; the surrounding tragedy and
context are not included in the passage.
evidence:
- id: ev:1
type: summary
locator: 11459-11467
quote_or_summary: Adeimantus agrees that stories are unfit in which a young man
might justify worst crimes or chastising his father by following the example of
the greatest gods.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/greek/project-gutenberg/republic-jowett.md
rights_note: Public domain source; summarized.
- id: ev:2
type: summary
locator: 11468-11482
quote_or_summary: The speakers say future guardians should not be told of wars in
heaven, divine plots and fights, battles of giants, or quarrels of gods and heroes
with friends and relatives.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/greek/project-gutenberg/republic-jowett.md
rights_note: Public domain source; summarized.
- id: ev:3
type: summary
locator: 11483-11491
quote_or_summary: The passage excludes stories of Hephaestus binding Hera, Zeus
throwing Hephaestus for taking her part, and the battles of the gods in Homer,
whether allegorical or not.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/greek/project-gutenberg/republic-jowett.md
rights_note: Public domain source; summarized.
- id: ev:4
type: summary
locator: 11491-11497
quote_or_summary: A young person cannot judge allegorical from literal meaning,
and what is received into the mind at that age is likely to become indelible and
unalterable.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/greek/project-gutenberg/republic-jowett.md
rights_note: Public domain source; summarized.
- id: ev:5
type: summary
locator: 11503-11512
quote_or_summary: Socrates says they are founders of a State, not poets; founders
should know the forms and limits poets must observe, though they need not make
the tales.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/greek/project-gutenberg/republic-jowett.md
rights_note: Public domain source; summarized.
- id: ev:6
type: summary
locator: 11517-11554
quote_or_summary: The argument states that God must be represented as truly good;
what is good does not hurt or cause evil; therefore God is cause of good only,
not of most human evils.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/greek/project-gutenberg/republic-jowett.md
rights_note: Public domain source; summarized.
- id: ev:7
type: quote
locator: 11556-11572
quote_or_summary: Homeric lines are rejected in which two casks lie at Zeus' threshold,
one of good and one of evil lots, and Zeus dispenses good and evil.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/greek/project-gutenberg/republic-jowett.md
rights_note: Public domain source; short excerpt summarized.
- id: ev:8
type: summary
locator: 11573-11583
quote_or_summary: The passage rejects attributing Pandarus' treaty violation to
Athene and Zeus, divine strife to Themis and Zeus, and Aeschylus' claim that God
plants guilt when destroying a house.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/greek/project-gutenberg/republic-jowett.md
rights_note: Public domain source; summarized.
- id: ev:9
type: summary
locator: 11584-11601
quote_or_summary: Poets may say God punishes justly and benefits the wicked by punishment,
but must deny that God, being good, is author of evil, misery, or impious fiction.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/greek/project-gutenberg/republic-jowett.md
rights_note: Public domain source; summarized.
- id: ev:10
type: summary
locator: 11604-11608
quote_or_summary: A second principle is introduced by asking whether God is a magician
changing into many forms or deceiving by semblances, or is immutably fixed in
his own image.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/greek/project-gutenberg/republic-jowett.md
rights_note: Public domain source; summarized.
- id: ev:11
type: quote
locator: 11602-11603
quote_or_summary: "“God is not the author of all things, but of good only.”"
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/greek/project-gutenberg/republic-jowett.md
rights_note: Public domain source; short quotation.
confidence:
extraction: high
motif_candidates: medium
comparison_claims: high
notes: The passage is philosophical dialogue rather than myth narration; figures
and motifs are mostly extracted from examples and prescriptive rules within the
argument.
reviewer_status:
status: needs_review
reviewer: ''
reviewed_at: ''
notes: Machine-generated draft from OpenAI Batch; not human-reviewed.
extracted_by: openai_batch:gpt-5.5
extracted_at: '2026-04-28'
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