batch.motif.greek-plato-republic-jowett-gutenberg-l10549-l10633
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record_id: batch.motif.greek-plato-republic-jowett-gutenberg-l10549-l10633
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/greek/project-gutenberg/republic-jowett.md
passage_locator:
label: THE REPUBLIC. / PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE. / BOOK I. / BOOK II.; lines 10549-10633
start: '10549'
end: '10633'
translation: The Republic
notes: Generated from OpenAI Batch run motif-extraction-2026-04-28-high-priority;
human review required.
canonical_text:
quote: ''
summary: Glaucon and Adeimantus develop an argument that justice is praised chiefly
for reputation and reward. The passage contrasts the suffering of a just man thought
unjust with the worldly success of an unjust man thought just, then cites poetic
and religious promises of prosperity, afterlife feasting, posterity, and punishments
in Hades.
language: English
quote_policy: summarized
literal_observations:
- id: obs:1
text: A just man who is believed to be unjust is described as being scourged, racked,
bound, blinded, and finally impaled.
category: action
evidence_refs:
- ev:1
- id: obs:2
text: An unjust man who is believed to be just is described as ruling in the city,
arranging marriages, trading advantageously, winning contests, gaining wealth,
aiding friends, harming enemies, and making abundant offerings to gods.
category: sequence
evidence_refs:
- ev:2
- id: obs:3
text: Parents and tutors are said to tell sons and wards to be just for the sake
of character and reputation rather than for justice itself.
category: speech
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- id: obs:4
text: The passage reports claims that the heavens rain benefits on the pious and
that gods make the oaks, sheep, earth, trees, and sea productive for the just
or blameless ruler.
category: setting
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- ev:4
- id: obs:5
text: Musaeus and his son are said to take the just down into the world below, where
saints lie on couches at a feast, drunk and crowned with garlands.
category: action
evidence_refs:
- ev:5
- id: obs:6
text: The wicked are described as buried in a slough in Hades and made to carry
water in a sieve.
category: action
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- id: obs:7
text: The posterity of the faithful and just is said to survive to the third and
fourth generation.
category: sequence
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
figures:
- id: fig:1
name_or_label: Socrates
description: Dialogue participant addressed by Glaucon and Adeimantus; he prepares
to answer Glaucon before Adeimantus interposes.
role_refs:
- role:1
evidence_refs:
- ev:7
- id: fig:2
name_or_label: Glaucon
description: Dialogue participant whose argument describes the benefits of injustice
with the reputation of justice and the suffering of the just man reputed unjust.
role_refs:
- role:2
evidence_refs:
- ev:1
- ev:2
- ev:7
- id: fig:3
name_or_label: Adeimantus
description: Glaucon's brother who adds another side to the argument about praise
and censure of justice and injustice.
role_refs:
- role:3
evidence_refs:
- ev:7
- ev:3
- id: fig:4
name_or_label: The just man thought unjust
description: A hypothetical just person who is reputed unjust and suffers extreme
punishments.
role_refs:
- role:4
evidence_refs:
- ev:1
- id: fig:5
name_or_label: The unjust man thought just
description: A hypothetical unjust person who has the reputation of justice and
gains civic, social, economic, and religious advantages.
role_refs:
- role:5
evidence_refs:
- ev:2
- id: fig:6
name_or_label: Parents and tutors
description: Figures said to instruct sons and wards to be just for the sake of
reputation and its advantages.
role_refs:
- role:6
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- id: fig:7
name_or_label: Hesiod
description: Poet cited as testimony for divine or heavenly benefits given to the
just.
role_refs:
- role:7
evidence_refs:
- ev:4
- id: fig:8
name_or_label: Homer
description: Poet cited as giving a similar description of prosperity under a blameless
king who maintains justice.
role_refs:
- role:7
evidence_refs:
- ev:4
- id: fig:9
name_or_label: Musaeus and his son
description: Religious-poetic authorities said to provide grander gifts of heaven
by taking the just into the world below for an everlasting feast.
role_refs:
- role:7
evidence_refs:
- ev:5
- id: fig:10
name_or_label: The wicked
description: People described as punished in Hades and brought to infamy while living.
role_refs:
- role:8
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
roles:
- id: role:1
label: interlocutor and respondent
assigned_to:
- fig:1
basis: Socrates is addressed by name and prepares to answer Glaucon before Adeimantus
speaks.
evidence_refs:
- ev:7
- id: role:2
label: speaker of argument about apparent justice
assigned_to:
- fig:2
basis: Glaucon's argument presents the contrast between the reputedly unjust just
man and the reputedly just unjust man.
evidence_refs:
- ev:1
- ev:2
- ev:7
- id: role:3
label: supplementary speaker
assigned_to:
- fig:3
basis: Adeimantus interposes and adds another side to Glaucon's argument.
evidence_refs:
- ev:7
- ev:3
- id: role:4
label: suffering righteous figure
assigned_to:
- fig:4
basis: The figure is just but thought unjust and is subjected to torture and impalement.
evidence_refs:
- ev:1
- id: role:5
label: prospering deceptive figure
assigned_to:
- fig:5
basis: The figure is unjust but thought just and receives power, wealth, and religious
honor.
evidence_refs:
- ev:2
- id: role:6
label: moral instructors emphasizing reputation
assigned_to:
- fig:6
basis: They instruct sons and wards to be just for reputation and its advantages.
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- id: role:7
label: cited poetic or religious authority
assigned_to:
- fig:7
- fig:8
- fig:9
basis: Hesiod, Homer, and Musaeus with his son are cited as authorities for rewards
of justice.
evidence_refs:
- ev:4
- ev:5
- id: role:8
label: punished wrongdoers
assigned_to:
- fig:10
basis: The wicked are placed in Hades, in a slough, and made to carry water in a
sieve.
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
symbols:
- id: sym:1
label: Hades
literal_form: Hades, the world below
associated_figures:
- fig:9
- fig:10
taxonomy_refs: []
evidence_refs:
- ev:5
- ev:6
- id: sym:2
label: everlasting feast
literal_form: couches, feast, drunkenness, and garlands in the world below
associated_figures:
- fig:9
taxonomy_refs: []
evidence_refs:
- ev:5
- id: sym:3
label: slough in Hades
literal_form: a slough where the wicked are buried
associated_figures:
- fig:10
taxonomy_refs: []
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- id: sym:4
label: water carried in a sieve
literal_form: water carried in a sieve by the wicked
associated_figures:
- fig:10
taxonomy_refs:
- water
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- id: sym:5
label: agricultural and pastoral abundance
literal_form: acorns, bees, sheep fleeces, wheat, barley, fruit trees, and fish
associated_figures:
- fig:7
- fig:8
taxonomy_refs: []
evidence_refs:
- ev:4
- id: sym:6
label: sacrifices and gifts to gods
literal_form: abundant sacrifices and dedicated gifts
associated_figures:
- fig:5
taxonomy_refs: []
evidence_refs:
- ev:2
scenes:
- id: scene:1
label: Hypothetical punishment of the just man reputed unjust
summary: The argument imagines a just man with an unjust reputation undergoing torture,
blinding, and impalement.
figure_refs:
- fig:2
- fig:4
symbol_refs: []
evidence_refs:
- ev:1
- id: scene:2
label: Worldly success of the unjust man reputed just
summary: The argument imagines an unjust man with a just reputation gaining civic
power, marriage alliances, trade advantages, victories, wealth, and the ability
to honor gods and men.
figure_refs:
- fig:2
- fig:5
symbol_refs:
- sym:6
evidence_refs:
- ev:2
- id: scene:3
label: Instruction in justice for reputation
summary: Adeimantus says parents and tutors praise justice to young people because
reputation brings offices, marriages, divine favor, and other advantages.
figure_refs:
- fig:1
- fig:3
- fig:6
symbol_refs: []
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- id: scene:4
label: Poetic blessings for the just
summary: Hesiod and Homer are cited for the claim that the just receive abundant
crops, livestock, fruit, and fish.
figure_refs:
- fig:7
- fig:8
symbol_refs:
- sym:5
evidence_refs:
- ev:4
- id: scene:5
label: Afterlife feast for the just
summary: Musaeus and his son are said to bring the just into the world below, where
they recline at an everlasting feast, drunk and garlanded.
figure_refs:
- fig:9
symbol_refs:
- sym:1
- sym:2
evidence_refs:
- ev:5
- id: scene:6
label: Punishments of the wicked in Hades
summary: The wicked are described as buried in a slough in Hades, carrying water
in a sieve, and suffering infamy and punishments while alive.
figure_refs:
- fig:10
symbol_refs:
- sym:1
- sym:3
- sym:4
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
candidate_motifs:
- id: motif:1
label: Rewards and punishments for justice and wickedness
taxonomy_refs:
- divine_judgment
basis: The passage reports divine or heavenly benefits for the just and pious, afterlife
reward for the just, and Hades punishments for the wicked.
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- ev:4
- ev:5
- ev:6
confidence: medium
cautions: The passage presents these claims as arguments and cited traditions, not
as a narrated divine judgment scene.
- id: motif:2
label: Afterlife descent to feast or punishment
taxonomy_refs:
- afterlife_journey_map
basis: The just are taken down into the world below for an everlasting feast, while
the wicked are placed in Hades with punitive tasks.
evidence_refs:
- ev:5
- ev:6
confidence: medium
cautions: The passage gives brief reported descriptions of the world below rather
than a full journey itinerary.
- id: motif:3
label: Prosperity of the just ruler and land
taxonomy_refs: []
basis: Hesiod and Homer are cited for claims that justice is accompanied by fertility
of oaks, bees, sheep, fields, fruit trees, and sea.
evidence_refs:
- ev:4
confidence: high
cautions: No available taxonomy reference directly names this agrarian justice motif.
- id: motif:4
label: Appearance of virtue rewarded over virtue itself
taxonomy_refs: []
basis: The passage contrasts a just man reputed unjust, who suffers, with an unjust
man reputed just, who gains power, wealth, and honor.
evidence_refs:
- ev:1
- ev:2
- ev:3
confidence: high
cautions: This is a philosophical argument pattern rather than a mythic narrative
episode.
comparison_claims:
- id: claim:1
claim: The passage explicitly treats Hesiod and Homer as presenting similar poetic
testimony that justice is linked with earthly abundance and good rule.
claim_level: same_function
target: Hesiodic and Homeric praise of justice through prosperity imagery
evidence_refs:
- ev:4
counter_evidence_refs: []
confidence: high
limitations: The comparison is limited to the passage's own citations and does not
establish textual dependence beyond its wording.
- id: claim:2
claim: The passage groups Musaeus and his son with other cited authorities as offering
a more elaborate reward for the just, shifting the reward pattern from earthly
prosperity to an afterlife banquet.
claim_level: same_function
target: Poetic-religious reward traditions for the just
evidence_refs:
- ev:4
- ev:5
counter_evidence_refs: []
confidence: medium
limitations: The passage reports these traditions polemically within an argument
about justice and reputation; it does not narrate the tradition independently.
evidence:
- id: ev:1
type: summary
locator: 10549-10562
quote_or_summary: Glaucon reports that eulogists of injustice would say the just
man thought unjust will be scourged, racked, bound, blinded, and finally impaled.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/greek/project-gutenberg/republic-jowett.md
rights_note: Public domain translation; summarized.
- id: ev:2
type: summary
locator: 10563-10580
quote_or_summary: The unjust man thought just is said to rule, marry as he wishes,
trade to his advantage, defeat antagonists, become rich, benefit friends, harm
enemies, and offer sacrifices and gifts to the gods magnificently.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/greek/project-gutenberg/republic-jowett.md
rights_note: Public domain translation; summarized.
- id: ev:3
type: summary
locator: 10594-10606
quote_or_summary: Adeimantus says parents and tutors urge justice for the sake of
character and reputation, offices, marriages, and the good opinion of gods, who
are said to rain benefits on the pious.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/greek/project-gutenberg/republic-jowett.md
rights_note: Public domain translation; summarized.
- id: ev:4
type: summary
locator: 10606-10616
quote_or_summary: Hesiod is cited for oaks bearing acorns and bees and sheep heavy
with fleeces; Homer is cited for a blameless king whose just rule is accompanied
by wheat, barley, fruit, sheep, and fish.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/greek/project-gutenberg/republic-jowett.md
rights_note: Public domain translation; summarized.
- id: ev:5
type: summary
locator: 10617-10624
quote_or_summary: Musaeus and his son are said to take the just into the world below,
where saints lie on couches at a feast, drunk and crowned with garlands.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/greek/project-gutenberg/republic-jowett.md
rights_note: Public domain translation; summarized.
- id: ev:6
type: summary
locator: 10624-10630
quote_or_summary: Some say the posterity of the faithful and just survives to the
third and fourth generation; the wicked are buried in a slough in Hades, made
to carry water in a sieve, and given infamy and punishments while alive.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/greek/project-gutenberg/republic-jowett.md
rights_note: Public domain translation; summarized.
- id: ev:7
type: summary
locator: 10581-10593
quote_or_summary: Socrates prepares to answer Glaucon, but Adeimantus, Glaucon's
brother, interposes and says the strongest point has not yet been mentioned.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/greek/project-gutenberg/republic-jowett.md
rights_note: Public domain translation; summarized.
confidence:
extraction: high
motif_candidates: medium
comparison_claims: medium
notes: The dialogue structure, cited figures, and reported reward-punishment imagery
are explicit. Motif classification is cautious because the passage is philosophical
argument using reported poetic traditions rather than a continuous myth narrative.
reviewer_status:
status: needs_review
reviewer: ''
reviewed_at: ''
notes: Machine-generated draft from OpenAI Batch; not human-reviewed.
extracted_by: openai_batch:gpt-5.5
extracted_at: '2026-04-28'
notes: |-
Only provided passage and metadata were used. Taxonomy references were limited to available entries and applied only where directly supported.
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