batch.motif.daoist-zhuangzi-giles-gutenberg-l2403-l2516
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record_id: batch.motif.daoist-zhuangzi-giles-gutenberg-l2403-l2516
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/daoist/project-gutenberg/chuang-tzu-giles.md
passage_locator:
label: CHAPTER III. / NOURISHMENT OF THE SOUL. / CHAPTER IV. / MAN AMONG MEN.; lines
2403-2516
start: '2403'
end: '2516'
translation: 'Chuang Tzu: Mystic, Moralist, and Social Reformer'
notes: Generated from OpenAI Batch run motif-extraction-2026-04-28-high-priority;
human review required.
canonical_text:
quote: ''
summary: The passage gives counsel against excess in speech, action, and negotiation,
advising adherence to instructions and acceptance of destiny. It then presents
Yen Ho seeking advice before tutoring the problematic heir of Prince Ling; Chü
Poh Yü counsels careful self-reform, outward adaptation, and inward integrity,
illustrated by examples of a praying mantis opposing a chariot, the management
of tigers, and a horse injured by a well-intentioned groom. The passage closes
with an artisan and apprentice seeing a huge sacred li tree, which the artisan
judges useless for practical timber and therefore long-lived.
language: English
quote_policy: summarized
literal_observations:
- id: obs:1
text: The passage says that trials of skill and festive drinking may begin in friendliness
or order and end in antagonism or disorder when pushed too far.
category: sequence
evidence_refs:
- ev:1
- id: obs:2
text: Speech is compared to wind acting on waves, and divergence from a true goal
is described as dangerous.
category: speech
evidence_refs:
- ev:1
- id: obs:3
text: A cited maxim says not to deviate from or travel beyond one's instructions.
category: speech
evidence_refs:
- ev:2
- id: obs:4
text: The advice on negotiation is to let oneself be carried along without fear
and to leave matters to Destiny.
category: action
evidence_refs:
- ev:2
- id: obs:5
text: Yen Ho is about to become tutor to the eldest son of Prince Ling of Wei and
asks Chü Poh Yü what to do because the son is dangerous if unrestrained and personally
dangerous if restrained.
category: relationship
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- id: obs:6
text: Chü Poh Yü advises Yen Ho to begin with self-reformation, adapting outwardly
while maintaining an inward standard.
category: speech
evidence_refs:
- ev:4
- id: obs:7
text: Chü Poh Yü warns that outward adaptation should not penetrate within and that
the inward standard should not show outwardly.
category: speech
evidence_refs:
- ev:4
- id: obs:8
text: Chü Poh Yü advises matching the prince's son's childishness or lack of decorum
so as to reach him without offending him.
category: action
evidence_refs:
- ev:4
- id: obs:9
text: A praying mantis stretches out its arms in rage to stop a chariot, not knowing
that this is beyond its strength.
category: action
evidence_refs:
- ev:5
- id: obs:10
text: The keepers of tigers avoid giving live animals or whole animals as food because
killing or rending prey may excite the tigers' fury.
category: action
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- id: obs:11
text: A groom brushes mosquitoes or flies from a horse, but the startled horse breaks
its bridle and injures its head and chest.
category: action
evidence_refs:
- ev:7
- id: obs:12
text: An artisan traveling to Ch'i sees a sacred li tree at Ch'ü-yüan that is very
large, high, broad, and branch-bearing.
category: setting
evidence_refs:
- ev:8
- id: obs:13
text: Crowds gaze at the sacred tree, but the artisan walks on without looking back;
the apprentice later questions him about this.
category: action
evidence_refs:
- ev:8
- ev:9
- id: obs:14
text: The artisan says the tree's wood is good for nothing as a boat, coffin, furniture,
door, or pillar, and that its lack of usefulness explains its age.
category: speech
evidence_refs:
- ev:9
figures:
- id: fig:1
name_or_label: Yen Ho
description: A philosopher from Lu who is about to become tutor to the eldest son
of Prince Ling of Wei.
role_refs:
- role:1
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- id: fig:2
name_or_label: Chü Poh Yü
description: Prime Minister of Wei who answers Yen Ho's question with advice and
illustrative examples.
role_refs:
- role:2
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- ev:4
- id: fig:3
name_or_label: Eldest son of Prince Ling of Wei
description: A man described by Yen Ho as naturally of a low disposition, dangerous
to the state if unrestrained and dangerous to the tutor if restrained.
role_refs:
- role:3
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- id: fig:4
name_or_label: Prince Ling of Wei
description: Ruler of Wei whose eldest son Yen Ho is to tutor.
role_refs:
- role:4
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- id: fig:5
name_or_label: Praying mantis
description: An insect in Chü Poh Yü's example that raises its arms to stop a chariot,
unaware the task exceeds its strength.
role_refs:
- role:5
evidence_refs:
- ev:5
- id: fig:6
name_or_label: Tiger keepers
description: People who manage tigers by controlling how food is given and by watching
hunger and repletion.
role_refs:
- role:6
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- id: fig:7
name_or_label: Tigers
description: Animals described as manageable if properly managed and liable to fury
if excited.
role_refs:
- role:7
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- id: fig:8
name_or_label: Groom
description: A caretaker who brushes insects from a horse with good intention but
insufficient care.
role_refs:
- role:8
evidence_refs:
- ev:7
- id: fig:9
name_or_label: Horse
description: An animal that breaks its bridle and hurts its head and chest after
being unexpectedly brushed by a groom.
role_refs:
- role:9
evidence_refs:
- ev:7
- id: fig:10
name_or_label: Artisan
description: A traveling artisan who ignores a large sacred li tree and explains
that its wood is useless.
role_refs:
- role:10
evidence_refs:
- ev:8
- ev:9
- id: fig:11
name_or_label: Apprentice
description: The artisan's apprentice who gazes at the tree and asks why the master
did not stop to look at it.
role_refs:
- role:11
evidence_refs:
- ev:8
- ev:9
- id: fig:12
name_or_label: Sacred li tree
description: A large sacred li tree at Ch'ü-yüan, described as large enough to hide
an ox, a hundred spans in girth, towering over the hilltop, and bearing branches
large enough for boats.
role_refs:
- role:12
evidence_refs:
- ev:8
- ev:9
roles:
- id: role:1
label: prospective tutor seeking counsel
assigned_to:
- fig:1
basis: Yen Ho is about to become tutor and states he is at a loss what to do.
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- id: role:2
label: counselor and interpreter of prudence
assigned_to:
- fig:2
basis: Chü Poh Yü replies to Yen Ho with practical counsel and analogies.
evidence_refs:
- ev:4
- ev:5
- ev:6
- ev:7
- id: role:3
label: difficult pupil and political danger
assigned_to:
- fig:3
basis: Yen Ho describes him as unprincipled and dangerous to the state or to the
tutor depending on how he is handled.
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- id: role:4
label: ruler connected to the pupil
assigned_to:
- fig:4
basis: The pupil is identified as Prince Ling's eldest son.
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- id: role:5
label: example of overmatched opposition
assigned_to:
- fig:5
basis: The mantis attempts to stop a chariot despite lacking the strength for it.
evidence_refs:
- ev:5
- id: role:6
label: managers of dangerous animals
assigned_to:
- fig:6
basis: The keepers regulate tiger feeding to avoid fury.
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- id: role:7
label: dangerous beings requiring careful management
assigned_to:
- fig:7
basis: Tigers are said to become manageable if properly managed and unmanageable
if excited to fury.
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- id: role:8
label: well-intentioned but careless caretaker
assigned_to:
- fig:8
basis: The groom brushes insects away, but the passage says the intention is good
while real care is lacking.
evidence_refs:
- ev:7
- id: role:9
label: startled animal harmed by carelessness
assigned_to:
- fig:9
basis: The horse breaks its bridle and injures itself after the groom's unexpected
action.
evidence_refs:
- ev:7
- id: role:10
label: practical evaluator of timber
assigned_to:
- fig:10
basis: The artisan judges the sacred li tree unsuitable for boats, coffins, furniture,
doors, and pillars.
evidence_refs:
- ev:9
- id: role:11
label: questioning apprentice
assigned_to:
- fig:11
basis: The apprentice gazes at the tree and asks why the artisan did not stop to
look at it.
evidence_refs:
- ev:8
- ev:9
- id: role:12
label: useless and long-lived sacred tree
assigned_to:
- fig:12
basis: The tree is described as sacred and immense, while the artisan says its useless
wood is why it has attained its age.
evidence_refs:
- ev:8
- ev:9
symbols:
- id: sym:1
label: wind and waves
literal_form: Speech compared to wind and waves stirred by wind
associated_figures: []
taxonomy_refs: []
evidence_refs:
- ev:1
- id: sym:2
label: praying mantis opposing chariot
literal_form: A mantis stretching its arms to prevent a chariot from passing
associated_figures:
- fig:5
taxonomy_refs: []
evidence_refs:
- ev:5
- id: sym:3
label: managed tigers
literal_form: Tigers whose fury is avoided by careful feeding practices
associated_figures:
- fig:6
- fig:7
taxonomy_refs: []
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- id: sym:4
label: startled horse
literal_form: A horse breaking its bridle and injuring itself after a groom brushes
away insects
associated_figures:
- fig:8
- fig:9
taxonomy_refs: []
evidence_refs:
- ev:7
- id: sym:5
label: sacred li tree
literal_form: A huge sacred li tree judged useless as timber
associated_figures:
- fig:10
- fig:11
- fig:12
taxonomy_refs:
- tree
evidence_refs:
- ev:8
- ev:9
scenes:
- id: scene:1
label: Counsel against excess in speech and negotiation
summary: The passage warns that friendliness, festivity, speech, and action can
become dangerous when pushed beyond proper limits, and it advises remaining within
instructions and leaving matters to Destiny.
figure_refs: []
symbol_refs:
- sym:1
evidence_refs:
- ev:1
- ev:2
- id: scene:2
label: Yen Ho asks how to tutor a dangerous heir
summary: Yen Ho tells Chü Poh Yü that tutoring Prince Ling's eldest son is dangerous
whether the son is left alone or restrained, and Chü Poh Yü advises outward adaptation
with inward self-maintenance.
figure_refs:
- fig:1
- fig:2
- fig:3
- fig:4
symbol_refs: []
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- ev:4
- id: scene:3
label: Praying mantis exemplum
summary: Chü Poh Yü recounts a praying mantis trying to stop a chariot and uses
it as a warning against offending others through displays of superiority.
figure_refs:
- fig:2
- fig:5
symbol_refs:
- sym:2
evidence_refs:
- ev:5
- id: scene:4
label: Tiger-management exemplum
summary: Chü Poh Yü describes how tiger keepers avoid exciting tigers by controlling
the form and timing of food, then generalizes that beings are manageable when
properly managed and unmanageable when provoked.
figure_refs:
- fig:2
- fig:6
- fig:7
symbol_refs:
- sym:3
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- id: scene:5
label: Horse-care exemplum
summary: Chü Poh Yü describes a groom who intends to help a horse by brushing insects
away, but the horse is startled and injures itself; the example warns against
care that lacks real attentiveness.
figure_refs:
- fig:2
- fig:8
- fig:9
symbol_refs:
- sym:4
evidence_refs:
- ev:7
- id: scene:6
label: Artisan and the sacred li tree
summary: An artisan and apprentice encounter a huge sacred li tree at Ch'ü-yüan.
The apprentice admires it, but the artisan says its wood is useless for practical
purposes and that this explains its long survival.
figure_refs:
- fig:10
- fig:11
- fig:12
symbol_refs:
- sym:5
evidence_refs:
- ev:8
- ev:9
candidate_motifs:
- id: motif:1
label: Wisdom of non-excess and non-forcing
taxonomy_refs:
- wisdom
basis: The passage repeatedly warns against pushing skill, festivity, speech, action,
and negotiation beyond limits and counsels remaining within instructions.
evidence_refs:
- ev:1
- ev:2
confidence: high
cautions: This is a philosophical counsel motif rather than a narrative mythic episode.
- id: motif:2
label: Outward adaptation with inward integrity
taxonomy_refs:
- wisdom
basis: Chü Poh Yü advises Yen Ho to adapt outwardly while keeping an inward standard,
and to avoid either inward collapse or outward display.
evidence_refs:
- ev:4
confidence: high
cautions: The motif is extracted from explicit advice, not from symbolic narrative
alone.
- id: motif:3
label: Danger of opposing superior force
taxonomy_refs:
- wisdom
basis: The praying mantis story presents an energetic but overmatched creature attempting
to stop a chariot and is followed by a warning that superiority may bring grief
if it offends others.
evidence_refs:
- ev:5
confidence: high
cautions: The passage presents the example as moral counsel within a political-tutoring
context.
- id: motif:4
label: Careful management of dangerous beings
taxonomy_refs:
- wisdom
basis: The tiger and horse examples show that dangerous or sensitive beings may
be made unmanageable by provocation or careless intervention, even when intentions
are good.
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- ev:7
confidence: high
cautions: The passage applies the examples by analogy to human management, but the
literal scenes concern animals.
- id: motif:5
label: Uselessness as preservation
taxonomy_refs:
- wisdom
basis: The artisan says the sacred li tree is unusable for boats, coffins, furniture,
doors, or pillars, and that this lack of utility explains its old age.
evidence_refs:
- ev:8
- ev:9
confidence: high
cautions: Although the tree is called sacred and is symbolically salient, the available
motif taxonomy has no exact 'uselessness preserves life' family.
comparison_claims: []
evidence:
- id: ev:1
type: summary
locator: lines 2403-2428
quote_or_summary: The passage says trials of skill and drinking can begin well and
end badly when pushed too far; speech is compared to wind and wave, and divergence
from the true goal is dangerous.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/daoist/project-gutenberg/chuang-tzu-giles.md
rights_note: Public domain source; short summary used.
- id: ev:2
type: summary
locator: lines 2429-2441
quote_or_summary: A maxim from the Fa-yen says not to deviate from or go beyond
instructions; the advice is to avoid overreaching, let oneself be carried along
without fear, and leave matters to Destiny.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/daoist/project-gutenberg/chuang-tzu-giles.md
rights_note: Public domain source; short summary used.
- id: ev:3
type: summary
locator: lines 2451-2462
quote_or_summary: Yen Ho, a philosopher from Lu, is to tutor the eldest son of Prince
Ling of Wei and asks Chü Poh Yü for advice because the son is dangerous if unrestrained
and dangerous to personal safety if restrained.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/daoist/project-gutenberg/chuang-tzu-giles.md
rights_note: Public domain source; short summary used.
- id: ev:4
type: summary
locator: lines 2463-2476
quote_or_summary: 'Chü Poh Yü advises careful self-reformation: adapt outwardly
while maintaining an inward standard, without letting either penetrate the other
improperly; he advises matching the pupil''s behavior in order to reach him without
offense.'
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/daoist/project-gutenberg/chuang-tzu-giles.md
rights_note: Public domain source; short summary used.
- id: ev:5
type: quote
locator: lines 2477-2482
quote_or_summary: The praying mantis, in rage, 'stretched out its arms to prevent
a chariot from passing,' unaware this exceeded its strength.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/daoist/project-gutenberg/chuang-tzu-giles.md
rights_note: Public domain source; short excerpt used.
- id: ev:6
type: summary
locator: lines 2483-2491
quote_or_summary: Tiger keepers avoid giving live or whole animals to prevent fury,
watch hunger and repletion, and the passage says even humans are manageable if
properly managed and unmanageable if excited to fury.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/daoist/project-gutenberg/chuang-tzu-giles.md
rights_note: Public domain source; short summary used.
- id: ev:7
type: summary
locator: lines 2492-2499
quote_or_summary: A groom brushes mosquitoes or flies from a horse; the horse unexpectedly
breaks its bridle and injures its head and chest, illustrating good intention
without real care.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/daoist/project-gutenberg/chuang-tzu-giles.md
rights_note: Public domain source; short summary used.
- id: ev:8
type: summary
locator: lines 2500-2509
quote_or_summary: A traveling artisan reaches Ch'ü-yüan and sees a sacred li tree
of immense size; crowds gaze at it, while the artisan takes no notice and continues
on.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/daoist/project-gutenberg/chuang-tzu-giles.md
rights_note: Public domain source; short summary used.
- id: ev:9
type: summary
locator: lines 2510-2516
quote_or_summary: The apprentice praises the tree as splendid timber; the artisan
replies it is good for nothing as boat, coffin, furniture, door, or pillar, and
that being of no use is why it has attained its age.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/daoist/project-gutenberg/chuang-tzu-giles.md
rights_note: Public domain source; short summary used.
confidence:
extraction: high
motif_candidates: medium
comparison_claims: uncertain
notes: The passage is clear for literal figures, examples, and counsel. Motif labels
are interpretive but closely grounded in explicit advice and parables. No comparison
claims were added because the passage does not itself compare these scenes to
another tradition or motif family.
reviewer_status:
status: needs_review
reviewer: ''
reviewed_at: ''
notes: Machine-generated draft from OpenAI Batch; not human-reviewed.
extracted_by: openai_batch:gpt-5.5
extracted_at: '2026-04-28'
notes: |-
Only the supplied passage and metadata were used. Commentary about Confucius was not developed into a separate figure because the main extracted scenes concern the advice, Yen Ho and Chü Poh Yü, the animal exempla, and the sacred li tree.
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