batch.motif.daoist-zhuangzi-giles-gutenberg-l13809-l13950
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record_id: batch.motif.daoist-zhuangzi-giles-gutenberg-l13809-l13950
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/daoist/project-gutenberg/chuang-tzu-giles.md
passage_locator:
label: ON SWORDS. / CHAPTER XXXI. / THE OLD FISHERMAN. / CHAPTER XXXII.; lines 13809-13950
start: '13809'
end: '13950'
translation: 'Chuang Tzu: Mystic, Moralist, and Social Reformer'
notes: Generated from OpenAI Batch run motif-extraction-2026-04-28-high-priority;
human review required.
canonical_text:
quote: ''
summary: A sequence of sayings and anecdotes contrasts silent knowledge of Tao with
artificial speech, useless acquired skill, reliance on arms, shallow ambition,
and pride. It presents the perfect man as returning before the beginning and merging
with the infinite, rebukes a political agent who boasts of carriages, warns a
ruler against appointing Confucius, describes external and internal punishments,
lists tests of character, and contrasts Chêng K'ao Fu's humility with ordinary
men's arrogance after appointment.
language: English
quote_policy: summarized
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text: Chuang Tzŭ says that knowing Tao is easy, but eliminating speech is difficult;
knowing Tao without speech is called natural, while knowing it with speech is
called artificial.
category: speech
evidence_refs:
- ev:1
- id: obs:2
text: Chu P'ing Man spends a large patrimony learning from Chih Li I how to kill
dragons; after three years he is perfect at it, but has no direction in which
to show the skill.
category: sequence
evidence_refs:
- ev:2
- id: obs:3
text: The true Sage is said to regard certainties as uncertainties and therefore
not be up in arms; men in general do the opposite and are constantly up in arms.
category: attribute
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- id: obs:4
text: The mean man is described as preoccupied with bribes, recommendations, and
trivialities while attempting to penetrate the mystery of Tao and participate
in the One.
category: attribute
evidence_refs:
- ev:4
- id: obs:5
text: The perfect man is described as carrying his mind back before the beginning,
resting in the oblivion of nowhere, passing away like flowing water, and being
merged in the clear depths of the infinite.
category: attribute
evidence_refs:
- ev:4
- id: obs:6
text: Ts'ao Shang, a political agent for the prince of Sung at the Ch'in court,
returns with many carriages and boasts to Chuang Tzŭ about succeeding with a powerful
ruler.
category: action
evidence_refs:
- ev:5
- id: obs:7
text: Chuang Tzŭ replies to Ts'ao Shang with an analogy about physicians rewarded
for degrading treatments and tells him to leave.
category: speech
evidence_refs:
- ev:5
- id: obs:8
text: Duke Ai of Lu asks Yen Ho whether making Confucius a pillar of the realm would
benefit the state; Yen Ho replies that it would be perilous.
category: speech
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- id: obs:9
text: Yen Ho says difficulty in governing lies in inability to practise self-effacement,
and he distinguishes external punishments by metal and wood from internal punishments
by anxiety and remorse.
category: speech
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- id: obs:10
text: Confucius says the human heart is more dangerous than mountains and rivers
and more difficult to understand than Heaven, and then lists nine tests by which
an inferior man is revealed.
category: speech
evidence_refs:
- ev:7
- id: obs:11
text: 'Chêng K''ao Fu responds to successive appointments with increasing humility:
bowing his head, hunching his back, and falling upon his face while walking at
the side of the path.'
category: sequence
evidence_refs:
- ev:8
- id: obs:12
text: Ordinary men are contrasted with Chêng K'ao Fu by becoming self-important,
giving themselves airs in chariots, and calling their fathers by personal names
after successive appointments.
category: sequence
evidence_refs:
- ev:8
figures:
- id: fig:1
name_or_label: Chuang Tzŭ
description: Named speaker and respondent in the passage, giving teachings and rebuking
Ts'ao Shang.
role_refs:
- role:1
evidence_refs:
- ev:1
- ev:5
- id: fig:2
name_or_label: Chu P'ing Man
description: A man who spends a large patrimony learning how to kill dragons.
role_refs:
- role:2
evidence_refs:
- ev:2
- id: fig:3
name_or_label: Chih Li I
description: The person under whom Chu P'ing Man learns how to kill dragons.
role_refs:
- role:3
evidence_refs:
- ev:2
- id: fig:4
name_or_label: true Sage
description: An ideal figure who regards certainties as uncertainties and is not
up in arms.
role_refs:
- role:4
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- id: fig:5
name_or_label: mean man
description: A type of person whose intelligence is limited to bribes, recommendations,
and trivialities.
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- role:5
evidence_refs:
- ev:4
- id: fig:6
name_or_label: perfect man
description: An ideal figure whose mind returns before the beginning and is merged
in the infinite.
role_refs:
- role:4
evidence_refs:
- ev:4
- id: fig:7
name_or_label: Ts'ao Shang
description: A man of Sung who acts as political agent at Ch'in and boasts of receiving
a hundred additional carriages.
role_refs:
- role:6
evidence_refs:
- ev:5
- id: fig:8
name_or_label: prince of Sung
description: The ruler for whom Ts'ao Shang acts as political agent.
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- role:7
evidence_refs:
- ev:5
- id: fig:9
name_or_label: prince of Ch'in
description: The ruler who is pleased with Ts'ao Shang and gives him additional
carriages.
role_refs:
- role:7
evidence_refs:
- ev:5
- id: fig:10
name_or_label: Duke Ai of Lu
description: A ruler who asks Yen Ho about making Confucius a pillar of the realm.
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- role:8
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- id: fig:11
name_or_label: Yen Ho
description: A respondent who warns Duke Ai against entrusting the state to Confucius
and speaks on governance and punishments.
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- ev:6
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name_or_label: Confucius
description: Named both as the proposed pillar of Duke Ai's realm and as a speaker
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evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- ev:7
- id: fig:13
name_or_label: Chêng K'ao Fu
description: An exemplar who responds to appointments with increasing humility.
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- role:11
evidence_refs:
- ev:8
- id: fig:14
name_or_label: ordinary men
description: A contrasting group who become increasingly arrogant after successive
appointments.
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- role:12
evidence_refs:
- ev:8
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- fig:1
basis: Chuang Tzŭ gives teachings on Tao and later rebukes Ts'ao Shang.
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- ev:1
- ev:5
- id: role:2
label: learner of useless extraordinary skill
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- fig:2
basis: Chu P'ing Man masters dragon-killing but has no occasion to display it.
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- ev:2
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label: instructor in extraordinary skill
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- fig:3
basis: Chih Li I is named as the teacher under whom Chu P'ing Man learns dragon-killing.
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- ev:2
- id: role:4
label: ideal sage figure
assigned_to:
- fig:4
- fig:6
basis: The true Sage and perfect man are presented as ideal figures marked by noncontention
and union with the infinite.
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- ev:4
- id: role:5
label: limited or deluded person
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- fig:5
basis: The mean man is described as clouded by trivial concerns while attempting
to grasp Tao and the One.
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- ev:4
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label: political agent and boaster
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basis: Ts'ao Shang acts at court and boasts of receiving many carriages from a powerful
ruler.
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label: ruler or patron
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- fig:9
basis: The prince of Sung sends Ts'ao Shang, and the prince of Ch'in rewards him
with carriages.
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- id: role:8
label: ruler seeking counsel
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- fig:10
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basis: Yen Ho responds to Duke Ai with warnings about Confucius, self-effacement,
and punishments.
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basis: Confucius is discussed as a possible state pillar and later speaks on character
testing.
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- ev:7
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label: exemplar of humility under promotion
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- fig:13
basis: Chêng K'ao Fu becomes more humble with each appointment.
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basis: Ordinary men become more self-important after successive appointments.
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- ev:8
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label: dragons
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killing skill.
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- fig:3
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evidence_refs:
- ev:2
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label: flowing water and clear depths
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in the infinite.
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- ev:4
- id: sym:3
label: carriages
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Ts'ao Shang's success and boast.
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- fig:9
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evidence_refs:
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- id: sym:4
label: arms
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as certainties.
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evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- id: sym:5
label: metal and wood
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associated_figures: []
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evidence_refs:
- ev:6
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label: nine tests
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evidence_refs:
- ev:7
- id: sym:7
label: humility gestures
literal_form: Bowing the head, hunching the back, falling on the face, and walking
at the side of the path after appointment.
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- fig:13
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evidence_refs:
- ev:8
scenes:
- id: scene:1
label: Silent Tao and useless dragon-killing mastery
summary: Chuang Tzŭ contrasts natural wordless knowledge of Tao with artificial
speech, then tells of Chu P'ing Man mastering dragon-killing without any use for
the skill.
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- fig:1
- fig:2
- fig:3
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- ev:1
- ev:2
- id: scene:2
label: Sage, arms, and the infinite
summary: The true Sage avoids being up in arms, while the mean man fails to reach
primordial understanding and the perfect man merges with the infinite like flowing
water.
figure_refs:
- fig:4
- fig:5
- fig:6
symbol_refs:
- sym:2
- sym:4
evidence_refs:
- ev:3
- ev:4
- id: scene:3
label: Ts'ao Shang's carriages and Chuang Tzŭ's rebuke
summary: Ts'ao Shang boasts of courtly success and many carriages, and Chuang Tzŭ
replies with a degrading medical analogy before dismissing him.
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- fig:7
- fig:8
- fig:9
symbol_refs:
- sym:3
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- ev:5
- id: scene:4
label: Duke Ai asks Yen Ho about Confucius
summary: Duke Ai considers appointing Confucius; Yen Ho warns against it, emphasizes
self-effacement in governing, and describes external and internal punishments.
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- fig:10
- fig:11
- fig:12
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- sym:5
evidence_refs:
- ev:6
- id: scene:5
label: Tests of character and humility under appointment
summary: Confucius describes the hidden danger of the human heart and nine tests
of character, followed by a contrast between Chêng K'ao Fu's humility and ordinary
men's arrogance under promotion.
figure_refs:
- fig:12
- fig:13
- fig:14
symbol_refs:
- sym:6
- sym:7
- sym:3
evidence_refs:
- ev:7
- ev:8
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- id: motif:1
label: Wisdom teaching through aphorism and anecdote
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- wisdom
basis: The passage consists of teachings and anecdotes about Tao, speech, arms,
ambition, governing, punishment, testing character, and humility.
evidence_refs:
- ev:1
- ev:2
- ev:3
- ev:4
- ev:5
- ev:6
- ev:7
- ev:8
confidence: high
cautions: The material is philosophical and satirical rather than a single continuous
mythic narrative.
- id: motif:2
label: Union with the infinite after returning before the beginning
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- annihilation_union
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basis: The perfect man is said to return mentally to the period before the beginning,
rest in nowhere, pass like flowing water, and merge in the clear depths of the
infinite.
evidence_refs:
- ev:4
confidence: medium
cautions: The passage gives a compact philosophical description, not a narrated
journey or ritualized quest.
- id: motif:3
label: Extraordinary acquired skill without a world in which to use it
taxonomy_refs: []
basis: Chu P'ing Man masters dragon-killing after three years, but no direction
exists in which he can display the skill.
evidence_refs:
- ev:2
confidence: medium
cautions: The passage frames the anecdote as instruction about Tao; it does not
elaborate a dragon-slaying myth.
- id: motif:4
label: Testing concealed character
taxonomy_refs:
- initiation
basis: Confucius lists nine tests by which loyalty, respectfulness, ability, knowledge,
trustworthiness, integrity, fidelity, decorum, and morality reveal the inferior
man.
evidence_refs:
- ev:7
confidence: low
cautions: The tests are ethical and administrative rather than explicitly initiatory.
- id: motif:5
label: Humility increases with promotion
taxonomy_refs: []
basis: Chêng K'ao Fu becomes increasingly humble after successive appointments,
while ordinary men become increasingly arrogant.
evidence_refs:
- ev:8
confidence: medium
cautions: This is an ethical exemplum rather than a formal mythic motif.
comparison_claims: []
evidence:
- id: ev:1
type: summary
locator: lines 13809-13816
quote_or_summary: Chuang Tzŭ says that knowing Tao is easy, but eliminating speech
is difficult; wordless knowledge is natural, speech-bound knowledge artificial.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/daoist/project-gutenberg/chuang-tzu-giles.md
rights_note: Public domain source; passage supplied in request.
- id: ev:2
type: summary
locator: lines 13817-13825
quote_or_summary: Chu P'ing Man spends a large patrimony learning from Chih Li I
how to kill dragons; after three years he is perfect but has nowhere to show the
skill.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/daoist/project-gutenberg/chuang-tzu-giles.md
rights_note: Public domain source; passage supplied in request.
- id: ev:3
type: summary
locator: lines 13826-13835
quote_or_summary: The true Sage treats certainties as uncertainties and is not up
in arms; ordinary men treat uncertainties as certainties, fly to arms, and perish
by trusting arms.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/daoist/project-gutenberg/chuang-tzu-giles.md
rights_note: Public domain source; passage supplied in request.
- id: ev:4
type: summary
locator: lines 13836-13849
quote_or_summary: The mean man is clouded by trivialities while trying to penetrate
Tao and the One; the perfect man returns before the beginning and is merged in
the clear depths of the infinite like flowing water.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/daoist/project-gutenberg/chuang-tzu-giles.md
rights_note: Public domain source; passage supplied in request.
- id: ev:5
type: summary
locator: lines 13850-13873
quote_or_summary: Ts'ao Shang acts for Sung at the Ch'in court, gains many carriages,
boasts to Chuang Tzŭ, and receives a rebuke comparing greater rewards to more
degrading service.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/daoist/project-gutenberg/chuang-tzu-giles.md
rights_note: Public domain source; passage supplied in request.
- id: ev:6
type: summary
locator: lines 13874-13900
quote_or_summary: Duke Ai asks Yen Ho about making Confucius a pillar of the realm;
Yen Ho warns it is perilous, criticizes outward show, speaks of self-effacement
in governing, and distinguishes external and internal punishments.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/daoist/project-gutenberg/chuang-tzu-giles.md
rights_note: Public domain source; passage supplied in request.
- id: ev:7
type: summary
locator: lines 13901-13924
quote_or_summary: Confucius says the human heart is more dangerous than mountains
and rivers and lists nine tests that reveal the inferior man.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/daoist/project-gutenberg/chuang-tzu-giles.md
rights_note: Public domain source; passage supplied in request.
- id: ev:8
type: summary
locator: lines 13925-13950
quote_or_summary: Chêng K'ao Fu responds to three appointments with increasing humility,
while ordinary men respond to appointments with growing arrogance; the passage
closes by warning against intentional virtue looking outward.
source_text_path: texts/public-domain/daoist/project-gutenberg/chuang-tzu-giles.md
rights_note: Public domain source; passage supplied in request.
confidence:
extraction: high
motif_candidates: medium
comparison_claims: uncertain
notes: Literal extraction is high confidence from the supplied passage. Motif labels
are cautious because the passage is primarily philosophical, anecdotal, and ethical
rather than a continuous mythic narrative. No comparison claims were added because
the passage itself does not make explicit cross-traditional comparisons.
reviewer_status:
status: needs_review
reviewer: ''
reviewed_at: ''
notes: Machine-generated draft from OpenAI Batch; not human-reviewed.
extracted_by: openai_batch:gpt-5.5
extracted_at: '2026-04-28'
notes: |-
Only the supplied passage and metadata were used. Taxonomy references were limited to provided motif families and symbols.
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